Rhiannon Joyce

So optics wise, you've got this woman who's coming and being put into a position to save the day.

But the fact of the matter is it's only when shit hits the fan.

Yeah.

And it's so frustrating because so often these women, you know, we're wanting women at the top and we're wanting them to be into positions of power.

But the reality of it is...

the lay of the land and the industry itself is usually fucked or the business is fucked.

And then what it means is that these women are then in shorter tenures, what their male counterpart would be.

The thing is as well, this is actually statistically backed and it's a really, really strong indicator of the woman not being the problem.

It's actually the industry or the company itself, so much so that it affects women's tenure in a position.

So, you know, it's one thing that they're being put in these positions when

shits hitting the fan it's another that they're then having to move on quite quickly and the business is going like oh well this is why we can't have women in power or that's what the media is portraying on behalf of these businesses so the actual tenure Guardian actually reported since 2018 women have lasted an average of 5.2 years as chief executives compared to 8.1 years for men

Like that's a huge difference in terms of that duration and tenure.

And that's speaking to this idea that, you know, they're coming in, they're being expected to clean everything up, but then they're not given the same runway or opportunity as men to be able to do it.

There's no grace.

And bringing it back to the girl boss era as well, the Vogue piece touches on this quite a bit.

A lot of the controversy and the criticism that these women face and the reasons why they had to step away, there is justification there, but there were also systemically issues and these women were given millions and millions of dollars.

They weren't given the team to support them and be around them to make better financial decisions.

They're expected to be the jack of all trades and we all know how that ends up.

You're the master of none.

Bang on, Rae.