Rhiannon Lambert

So it's how you read it.

And I think you're right.

Most consumers would read that and think otherwise.

And I would say the salt comes from the choice of sandwich in this case because it's got streaky bacon within it, you know, and that's preserved with a lot of salt.

Exactly.

But it's whole foods added into a sandwich.

Ella, do you want to read off?

With a bit too much salt.

With a bit too much salt.

But read off what's in a burger.

I think it's really interesting for people to see.

And also, our McDonald's version of burgers are very different to in the States.

So if you are listening in the States, you'll have an even longer list of ingredients.

I look at McDonald's as food engineering science and food form.

I don't look at it as food I'm eating.

I look at it as engineered food.

But that perception, I think, has only just come into public realm because of the conversation on ultra processed foods.

What I really dislike is that brands like that try and pull you in with marketing to pretend they're all natural.

Well, like 100% beef patty.

Yeah, that's the deception that I really am not keen on.