Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But I mean, if we really if we're talking about being physically active, I'm going to be I'm going to be honest.

I think we need to be talking about at least moderate, at least moderate.

preferably vigorous.

And in fact, vigorous, it doesn't even have to be as vigorous as we usually talk about on this podcast.

I mean, I talk a lot about the benefits of going high intensity for the brain and all the, you know, it is still time efficient, but right now we're talking about vigorous and it has a little bit of a wider range, right?

So a little more room.

The Norwegian 4x4.

It's that we're really just dramatically underestimating the power of doing exercise, you know, and getting our heart rate up.

I know we're not measuring heart rate, but essentially they do correlate, right?

With the dose response curves with vigorous exercise, we did see a linear increase.

effect, both vigorous and moderate intensity both.

But with the vigorous, I know that you could spend about 30 to 40 minutes per day doing this vigorous type of exercise.

And that was associated with 50% or more greater reduction in like many of these categories for health outcomes, you know, cardiovascular related mortality, all cause mortality.

So I

type 2 diabetes incidence, right?

50% or more reduction.

That's pretty robust.

And again, that was at the higher end of the vigorous intensity physical activity.

But there's definitely a dose response that was seen there.

Right.