Rhonda Patrick

People are not mice.

We talked about earlier, as we get older, we're being exposed to infectious diseases.

Things are going to make us immobile for a

And that is devastating to us, especially when you add them up and they happen this year.

And then the next year it happens again.

And then you're just losing that muscle mass.

And then you reach that disability threshold.

You talked about Luke Van Loon talking about those curves.

It's very clear.

I mean, you can see the data where there's a disability threshold.

You get enough of these catabolic crisis events where you're just immobile for a certain period of time because you've had a surgery or you've had the flu or whatever has kept you inactive.

That doesn't happen to these mice.

So protein is much more important to humans because we, of course, need that muscle mass and we need to bank it early.

We've established that.

And I think that's a really important difference here is that we can't just look at the data in mice and go, oh, you can restrict them from protein and they live longer and they're fine.

Well, they're not going through these catabolic crises.

They're not going through these points of not moving for a period of time for like losing all this muscle mass and then that happening and they reach this disability threshold.

And then it's very different.

So I think that's first and foremost important to point out.

The second thing is, is that if we're talking about protein intake, I think that you and I agree the optimal scenario here isn't a sedentary person just sitting there eating as much protein as they want.