Ric Elias

I don't intend to be committing this much energy to this one thing.

That's may not happen for the next three to four years.

Hopefully the virtual red venture is existing.

I may not.

Go to Facebook or Meta and drive out of their campus and you see the Sun Microsystems on the back of the sign.

It's a great reminder that someone is going to paint our building blue someday.

And that's okay.

It was meant to be for a period of time.

I really don't know.

And I think the next 10 years, I think AI is going to disrupt every workflow, every interface, every platform, everything in ways that no one can predict.

You got to be both aggressive and thoughtful.

Remember early in AI, people are like, oh, this is just like the Internet, but it is four years, you know, for maybe not.

Maybe it's going to take that long for real models to mature, for consumer behaviors to change, for platforms to really adapt.

All the money that got made, and you know this better than anybody, all the money got that made and the internet wasn't in the first place.

Maybe some of the infrastructure.

Rick, it has been so much fun to get this excuse to talk to you about what you've built, maybe more importantly, your philosophy for building it.

I think you know my traditional closing question.

What is the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for you?

In fairness, I knew this question was coming.

There's been so much, but instead of finding the one person, I'll tell you the thing, and it's forgiveness.