Rich Roll

And I implore everyone to rethink this relationship.

And if you think it's okay, even if your screen time is high,

If you do an inventory, like write down what you do every 15 minutes throughout the day and do that for a day or a week, I think pretty much everybody will be shocked at how much time they're wasting.

And then we walk around saying, well, I don't have time for this, that, and the other.

And the things that are most important in life end up coming last because this becomes first because we're addicted to it.

And it is insane from pillar to post.

And we're all just...

You know, kind of accepting it.

It's crazy talk.

Yeah.

If I could say anything, especially to young people, like the good news is the bar is so low right now.

Like everybody is so distracted that if you could just develop a modicum of focus, like maybe 20% of what you were doing when you were younger,

23 years old, that puts you in the 99.99 percentile.

Like if you could just carve out some degree of deep focus throughout the day, you can leapfrog over everyone because everyone is so distracted now.

So you could actually distinguish yourself and accomplish quite a bit.

because everyone is so locked in on their doom scrolling.

When you were running for president, what did you learn about the digital information ecosystem that the average person might not understand or be aware of?

The election process then mirrors, you know, every kind of digital creator's experience.

I mean, it's same is true in podcasting or anyone who's trying to put a message out there.

Like if you want to capture attention...