Rich

I think we should be horrifically unrealistic.

I think we should be absolutely reckless with our expectations and assume that we can and will destroy MAGA every single place that we can destroy MAGA.

Because if people truly believe that, it will actually change their behavior.

It'll make them more likely to go do things.

Of course, after the fact...

Once everything's done, everything's done.

But in the lead up to it, we can actually manifest different versions of outcomes based on how people feel.

It's not in the data.

It's not in the fundraising.

You know, it's the vibe voting or whatever.

Like Trump did this really well.

Obama did this really well.

I think their vote doesn't matter.

Right.

And then and then the rest of the behaviors that you don't see besides the votes and the donations, they are also affected.

But we're not nobody's watching those closely.

So you don't see it as well.

Fixed gerrymandering.

I think people are realizing what lethal means now.

You know, when you talk about having a lethal military...