Rich

I mean, it's just so interesting too, because like, it's not the right, the national narrative is like, we're aware of this stuff, but only you guys are really embedded in it.

And that's such a different experience.

I'm sure just like America must feel like a totally different country compared to where Rich and I are, you know?

That's like, it's terrifying.

That's the kind of thing, that's where I get really worried about like the fascist sort of stuff because they slowly bleed it in until it's everywhere, you know?

And it feels like this is one of the first entry points they're using.

I mean, is it because I wonder about this is ice like it's just like ice agents like wandering around like they just like at the grocery store shopping and then all of a sudden they pop out and just start doing their job or there's like really hidden and they just pop out.

Like what's the vibe like with that?

You know, that guy is terrible when Tom Homan looks good compared to a deli in the trench coat and everything.

It's it's all pure.

It's like if you went to a stylist, make me a Nazi.

That's 100 percent.

One of those things where I like it starts to show the limits of Trump's brazenness, too, because even he was like, I've got to pull this guy out.

This is they're making it too Nazi.

And even we can't go this far, which is kind of like that's the only like silver lining I found where it's like, all right, at least this shit is scaring Trump into changing a little bit.

Whereas if he was like excited by it, he'd be like, I don't give a shit.

Just keep pressing.

And he would increase rather than decrease.

So like even though it's a teeny change, it's like, all right.

Trump's kind of being, you know, persuaded by how negatively this is going in a teeny tiny bit, you know, totally.