Richard Baker

So you're seeing over the last couple of years quite a few reports of like these things called narco subs, which are semi-submersible boats.

which just sit above the surface of the water and they're cruising across the Pacific and washing up sometimes on Pacific islands and that, and there's, you know, hundreds of kilograms of cocaine in there.

And obviously, you know, for the stability of the Pacific and that, we know drugs bring money and money brings corruption.

Who's going to green light the warehousing of this stuff so long as they get a cut?

And you can sort of see that could pose a real problem

right across the Pacific area.

And again, it's due to Australia's demand.

There's a guy, a really interesting guy I interviewed from a city in Mexico called Angal Nakamura.

So he's grown up in a city that's been controlled by the Gulf cartel since he was a kid.

He talks about when he was a kid in the 90s, the prospect of becoming a narco.

was a really attractive one.

When I talked about the infiltration of government and police through corruption surrounding cocaine trade, he gives a really great example of something that happened to him in his daily work in Mexico that is ear-wiggling, yeah.