Richard Chambers

Well, it's a very good question, Mike.

I mean, Kiwis are great people, right?

Their reputation globally, whatever we do, is outstanding.

And the police are no different.

So it's no surprise that other law enforcement agencies come to our country to look for some of the best police officers in the world, frankly.

Oh, look, it's just the way it is.

I mean, there's a tremendous amount to be proud of, is that we've got nearly 10,500 police officers now.

We've never had that many in this country before.

That's about 270 more than November 2023.

And our attrition rate right now is 4.6%, which is one of the lowest it's ever been.

And just to compare, let's take the Northern Territory Police.

They have 1,500 staff total.

They've got a goal to recruit 200 more over four years.

Their attrition rate is sitting...

at around 8% to 9%.

So my point is actually they keep coming and taking some of our best police officers, but I think they've got a few issues they probably need to look at locally because that's a very high number of their own staff leaving.

So maybe they want to have a focus on that too.

Yeah, it is.

We've had 16 police officers come home from Australia.

We've got more currently going through the process to also want to come home.