Richard Fidler

Were you as enthusiastic as she was?

Why?

Punch and yell, but it's so strictly controlled at the same time.

You know exactly what you've got to do and how to do it in karate.

You made your mum happy and yourself happy and you finished school and went on to university.

You mentioned motorcycle detailing.

What else, what other sorts of jobs were you doing to support yourself while you were studying?

What's your trick?

You were involved in setting up a prison advocacy group called Sisters Inside.

Was this around that time, or how did that...

No, that was a bit later.

That was after university.

And what stands out to you when you think back to that time, either particular women or experiences you had, how does it stay in your memory?

You married and had two kids and moved around with your then-husband's work to Tonga, as you say, and other places.

But where in your heart did you always really want to live?

In that period of your life after the divorce and you were living back at Logan, what did you decide to do to try to get a bit of cash?

I've got a big check here from Tony Barber.

Signed me up, so I flew down to Melbourne and...

What's the process?

Were you made up?