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Richard Haass

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The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

and Israel over the last five or six weeks have really collaborated.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

When you read the New York Times piece the other day by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, Bibi Netanyahu's role in essentially persuading Donald Trump to go to war was clearly significant.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

I think he pitched things that were wildly unrealistic, but the president was more than willing to buy them.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Promises of regime change and his potential to be this historic figure in the Middle East.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

And then militarily, we've really collaborated closely.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

over the last, what, five, six weeks.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

But I think there is a growing strategic divergence.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

The U.S.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

priority is one, to get the Strait open, two, to prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon, and so forth.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

For the Israelis, what got them involved in this war was the Iranian ballistic missile inventory, and they're worried about Iranian proxies.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

So the list of priorities is ranked differently.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

between the United States and Iran.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Plus, Bibi Netanyahu is prepared to have perpetual war.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Now, it's not clear the Israeli public is, but let's park that aside for a second.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

But he is.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

And the United States isn't.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

We want to get the straight open.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

We want to have normalcy.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

At least in principle, we should want to focus on other parts of the world, in particular the Indo-Pacific.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

So I think for Israel, Iran is the big strategic consideration.