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Richard Haass

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The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

The government was beginning to lose the support of the businessmen, the so-called bazaaris, the middle-class people who own the shops.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

I simply would have kept economic pressure on Iran.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

And I actually think if we had done that and never started shooting,

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

I actually think there was a better chance of getting regime change than what we've done.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

I actually think we've interrupted the whole process of regime change.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

That said, the economy was weak then.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Obviously, it's weaker now.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

We ought to keep pressuring them.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

I don't have a specific answer saying it's nine days or 14 days or 23 days.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

But every day that goes by, as you say, they're no longer putting money in their bank account.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

And this is a country that ultimately needs to rebuild it.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Think about the history of the Iranian revolution.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Towards the end of the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, the Ayatollah Khomeini basically agreed to a peace deal.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Why?

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Because he needed to save the revolution.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

And he said, this is like drinking poison to me, but I'm going to drink poison to save the revolution.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

Well, I want to get Iran to that point again.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

I want them to say it's really hard to make a deal with these Americans who have done all that they've done to us.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

But if we're going to save the 79 revolution and avoid a collapse, we have got to cut a deal.

The Rest Is Politics: US
177. The Real Reason Trump’s Blocking The Strait of Hormuz

So that's why I want to put economic pressure on them.