Richard Lindzen

In other words, this is a relatively new way to approach the world.

I mean, a few hundred years.

And the notion is, and I think it's been stated many times, you test things.

And if they fail to predict correctly, they're wrong.

So you find out what's wrong with them.

You don't fudge them.

You don't change the rules.

It's led to immense improvements in life, development of all sorts of things, and so it has a good reputation.

politicians have less of a reputation, so they wish to co-opt the reputation of science.

Well, that's also confusing technology with science.

Right, the result of science.

You mentioned Gore at the beginning.

You know, with that thing, he was showing this cycle of ice ages and CO2 and temperature going together.

And it never bothered him that the temperature changed first and then the CO2.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I mean, I think we'll speak to that.

But I mean...

Essentially, the increased amount of CO2 in the industrial era has added greatly to the arable land.

And in fact, there's a funny story.

Do you know the name E.O.