Richard Miniter

The money is not in the truth.

And we need to find a solution to that, because if we don't, then what we have, as you say, are these people spouting crazy theories who are artificially boosted.

I go on my social media and I'm going, this is patently nonsense, yet it's got 3 million views.

How is this?

And that's the thing that worries me about the death of the mainstream media.

I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Spotlight.

Which is a brilliant movie.

It's about the Boston, I can't remember the newspaper.

The Boston Globe, an investigation into pedophilia into the Catholic Church in Boston.

And you watch this, and it's based on a true story.

And you think to yourself, that's such an important public service.

It's an important public service because there is always going to be corruption.

There is always going to be abuse.

And the best of the journalists, in my opinion, I'm sure you probably agree, were the people who exposed that.

And there's never going to be any less of that because human beings are what they are.

So if we don't have those people exposing it, then we're going to be in a much darker and more unsafe world.

Other examples of times and places where distrust in media is as high as it is today.

If so, how is that trust regained within those societies?