Richard Rabins

Then we've got a number of developers in New York, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Oregon, etc.

No, but I think one of the most impressive CEOs is the

I think his name's Alan Mullaly.

He was Boeing and Ford.

If you take a look at some of his lectures and videos, very impressive.

Well, we use HubSpot, but I don't think there's other products that are similar.

Well, it depends if half of my dog wakes me, but I'd say probably about six.

I have a wife and two daughters.

Two daughters.

And a male dog.

I'm in my late 50s.

Say that again?

That's a great question.

I just think the people skills, the importance of people skills, knowing that as early as possible in the game.

I happened to go to probably one of the more technical business schools and that stuff was always regarded as unimportant and

turns out ability to pick the right team and motivate people and treat people fairly and get everybody pointing in the same direction.

If you think of it as stallions

Moving a stagecoach forward, they've all got to be in the front all aiming for the same goal.

Thank you, Nathan.

Enjoyed meeting you.