Richard Scolyer

And, yeah, I wonder if I'm a bit slower than many people to accept what's...

Yeah, I was definitely perhaps more nervous, I think, than the previous ones and maybe because we were hoping to have some family holidays that I wouldn't be able to go on if the tumour had come back.

But, yeah, absolutely thrilled, delighted and no evidence of recurrence of the tumour.

So, yeah, to be up to 18 months now without recurrence, I'm just...

blown away.

And whether it's luck or treatment, no one knows the answer to it.

But I did notice that we talked earlier about what's the standard treatments called the STOOP protocol.

It's named after this guy called Roger Stoop, who's a neuro-oncologist who works in the USA at Northwestern.

And he said in BBC or Bloomberg or one of those international things that if scoliosis

alive at 12 months or even 18 months, then we should start to get excited or something like that.

So yeah, I wonder what he thinks now.

Yeah, definitely won't be scolia.

But yeah, but we don't know whether this therapy is doing anything or it's just on the end of the curve.

Well, I hope so, but I don't... Yeah, it has to be proven because this is the thing.

I've seen it in melanoma where it's happened that when we had no treatments at work that some patients, for whatever reason, got cured.

And in some ways, I know when you're facing almost certain death, in some ways I feel...

I'm almost guilty that I've been able to go down this route, have this opportunity because of hard work, kindness, commitment and my understanding of the risks that, you know...

People have said that there's not too many people in the world who could have gone down this route because of the risk involved and the science that we've done.

But, yeah, in some ways I feel bad that when people are facing death that they can't choose treatments.

But, yeah, ultimately a clinical trial is what has to be done to prove whether or not it works or not.