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Richard Sutton

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

there's no government or organization that gives humanity a unified point of view that dominates and that can arrange.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

There's no consensus about how the world should be run.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And number two, we will figure out how intelligence works.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Researchers will figure it out eventually.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And number three, we won't stop

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Just with human-level intelligence, we will reach superintelligence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And number four is that it's inevitable over time that the most intelligent things around would gain resources and power.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And, uh, so put all that together, it's, you know, you, um, it's sort of inevitable that you're going to have, um, succession to AI or to AI enabled augmented humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So within those, those four things seem clear and, and, and sure to happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Uh, but within that set of possibilities, some, there can be good outcomes as well as less good outcomes, bad outcomes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And, um,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So I'm just trying to be realistic about where we are and ask how we should feel about it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And so then I do encourage people to think positively about it, first of all, because it's something we humans have always tried to do for thousands of years, tried to understand themselves, trying to make themselves think better.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

you know, just understand themselves.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

So this is a great success as science, humanities.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

We're finding out what this essential part of humanness is, what it means to be intelligent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

And then what I usually say is that this is all kind of human-centric.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Richard Sutton โ€“ Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead-end

What if we look, you step aside from being a human and just say, take the point of view of the universe.