Richard

What do you mean?

You mean from your childhood?

Like I say, there was a lot of turmoil in Vietnam at this time in the late 70s.

Did you still manage to have a happy childhood nonetheless in the midst of all this?

How would you tie strings to a bee?

That sounds wonderful.

What do you tell your own son about all that stuff?

It sounds idyllic, this childhood, in a funny way.

So you say you had family that had gone to America.

Were they able to make contact with your family in Vietnam?

How were they getting on in America?

Were they able to send you presents from America?

So meanwhile, your parents were planning to escape and get away.

You were little.

Did you have any idea that there were plans afoot to leave?

To buy and build their own boat?

Under the nose of the authorities.

My God, your father must have been so resourceful.

I mean, getting hold of all the mechanical parts for an engine and timber and the frame and just finding the shipwrights who can build the thing.

I mean, this must have been quite a large conspiracy that's been hatched to build this big boat.