Rick Andrews

I wasn't like hanging out with them every weekend necessarily.

But I knew them in this way.

playful way.

The way I knew them is this like language of communication that we have as we're improvising together.

There is that weird kind of connection where you're like, oh, yeah, I just feel like we're like on the same wavelength at this point.

I do think it is helpful in all the ways that we're talking about, but it's not like you go in the room being like, the entire point of everything we're doing is to be more confident or to be a better doctor or to have friends or whatever.

It's kind of like you learn and grow through the act of like,

trying to develop a craft and, like, trying to, like, do this task together.

I feel like a lot of people I know who I feel, like, are really, I don't know, I admire or mature in these ways.

I do think, like, in a weird way, sometimes a lot of them kind of found themselves through the act of doing a thing that wasn't, the purpose of it wasn't to, like,

fix them or make them something better or whatever.

It was just kind of like, they got really into like rock climbing or they got super into like, um, playing the piano or whatever it is.

And then in each one of these like skills or whatever, if you apply yourself to it, it's, it has like different lessons to teach you, you know, like, like learning a new musical instrument takes a kind of dedication and like,

like a commitment to practice that, for example, improv does not require, you know?

So yeah, like rock climbing requires a little bit of like facing like physical fears in a way that like improv is scary, but not like I'm gonna fall off the rock way.

You might actually die.

Yeah, I guess that's true.

So it's like, I think each one of these things, like, it's like pulling different parts of a potential version of you kind of out.

Like, your current personality is, like, interacting with this, like, craft or skill or game or sport or activity and, like, having that right angle on it versus, you know, when I have students who are, like, for example, they're, like, really obsessed with getting good.

It's actually really unfun energy to perform with.