Rick Artestrine

Thanks for having me back.

I appreciate it.

Okay.

For your listeners that haven't heard me before on your last show, I'm retired law enforcement.

I've been involved with MUFON.

I was a state director for about five years here in Virginia.

Each state has a MUFON chapter, which is the Mutual UFO Network, and basically they investigate UFO sightings and file reports with the parent organization in an objective scientific type manner.

I did that for five years.

I was state director for Virginia, and then I went into the paranormal realm because in the UFO field, I found there's certain crossover elements of paranormal.

I mean, sometimes, especially with abduction cases, they experience paranormal type of activity in their homes and around their persons, kind of like poltergeist type activity, haunting, classic haunting type of activity.

Intrigued me.

So I went ahead and transitioned to the paranormal and joined the Center for Paranormal Research and Investigations back in 2002.

i've been with them ever since and uh the cpri short for center of paranormal research and investigation they're very credible organization as far as i'm concerned more credible than most paranormal groups because they adopt the scientific method philosophy and they approach it that way and they're very objective very critical and they look and they're basically data oriented and dated data-based organizations they don't necessarily rely on experience they're more

interested in the data associated with the experience itself so i found them to be very credible so i started working with them and uh throughout the course of that or my investigations in the paranormal um i started coming across you know certain cases in the literature where people involved in paranormal incidents start seeing these cryptic creatures like dogman bigfoot um

crawlers, that type of thing.

And then my focus seemed to shift a little bit.

I stuck with the paranormal, but I started to look a little bit more into this cryptic field because, again, like I said before, the crossover elements were there.

i talked with you and i talked with you a little bit about it and some of my experiences that i had and um after we talked i got you know more in depth in it and i started to think you know brainstorm about a project that a paranormal group a reputable paranormal group which i believe cpr is cpri is if they can get involved in the cryptid area bringing their

their their philosophy their equipment and all this into the into the fold then maybe we would come up with some of the answers you know or at least develop new questions that need to be addressed now we needed some data associated with these sightings of these creatures to see if you know there's an environmental change with them um we have certain you know we have data loggers and equipment that might be able to measure that and then we got into the orb phenomena

a lot of orb phenomena is witnessed around the bigfoot and the dogman areas and that that increased my interest because cpr i had a case we investigated back in 2003 involving orbs that apparently went through a screen we got a hold of the screen and had it now analyzed with by a radiochemist