Rick Artestrine

And it paced him all the way out, ran with him all the way out.

to uh the uh trailhead but it stopped at a creek i guess it wouldn't jump the creek or whatever but um he looked at that dogman creature and he was somewhat upset about that and uh you know he's he's he had a lot of experiences at home too some paranormal stuff uh something was banging on the side of his house or in a shed

And he lives in somewhat of a residential area, so I can't see these things coming down and doing that without being readily seen.

He had a lot of experiences, some paranormal, and that's what, you know, keyed me in to work with him a bit more.

yeah um he uh our our one of our members is an archaeologist and uh i'm not gonna mention his name because i don't know if he wanted me to do that but uh very credible guy very good guy and uh he's very objective he's not prone to fantasy or anything like that he was sitting in my uh rv which we set up down there at the cemetery and uh the rv was facing the cemetery itself

He jumped up and said, did you see that?

and i said no he says something just moved across the cemetery and uh he was he looked a bit he looked visibly um shaken by it a little bit he says he said we went outside looked around we couldn't find anything and he says it was large dark no discernible edges to it it was just a dark mass that crossed in front of him from right to left we start to think about it and he's he had a uh eye watch or

apple watch rather and uh in the apple watch there's a biosensor that measures heartbeat his heartbeat at that particular moment jumped from 62 to maybe 120 some beats per minute in that short period of second or two so he something happened that affected him by you know it affected him uh physically

So, yeah, that's true, Jack.

It was an interesting encounter that we can't explain to this day.

Was he seeing things?

I don't think so.

But, yeah.

Through my image, thermal imager, it was just a pinpoint of light.

It wasn't...

I couldn't see any distinct large mass to it.

It was just a pinpoint of light.

and i was moving that's all i could see at the point at that point i had the settings on white hot which would have you know it would have shown up white i didn't have it i didn't switch it at that time i was just more concerned about what it was i was just looking at i didn't know i thought it might have been you know somebody walking through the woods or something but there were no there was no sound associated with it the distance i would guesstimate would probably be

50 to 70 yards maybe and uh you know then when what harley claims to have seen you know that just was kind of icing on the cake and you know i had some doubt about what he might have seen but then when he said it went up the hill toward a specific knoll and from that particular knoll i heard that scream

And those owl sounds.