Rick Biros

So no one actually raised a flag and said, this is a problem. At the same time, USDA had a, you know, they brought this up, you know, they're in the plant, they're seeing this, they brought up concerns about this, but it wasn't being addressed by anything, just polar inspectors. Yeah.

So no one actually raised a flag and said, this is a problem. At the same time, USDA had a, you know, they brought this up, you know, they're in the plant, they're seeing this, they brought up concerns about this, but it wasn't being addressed by anything, just polar inspectors. Yeah.

But we don't know all the facts. To your point though, it was a food safe culture, one that prevented people from sneaking up. So therefore, one could construe that as being righteous. Certainly, Marler must be representing one or more.

But we don't know all the facts. To your point though, it was a food safe culture, one that prevented people from sneaking up. So therefore, one could construe that as being righteous. Certainly, Marler must be representing one or more.

People didn't have to die. People didn't have to get sick and people did not have to lose their jobs.

People didn't have to die. People didn't have to get sick and people did not have to lose their jobs.

an opportunity for Horsehead to really try and grab hold of the situation. There are times where really bad things happen. It really depends on how the food company, specifically the food company to manage, supports food safety and quality assurance people on how to address this.

an opportunity for Horsehead to really try and grab hold of the situation. There are times where really bad things happen. It really depends on how the food company, specifically the food company to manage, supports food safety and quality assurance people on how to address this.

So, actually in Virginia, Sabra Dipping Sauce had two big outbreaks years ago. And then? The Director of Food Safety is Rob Mamoson. Rob actually spoke at the consortium, and he was, and it was interesting, he had his corporate attorney sitting next to him, and usually those are the ones that tell you to shut up, don't say anything. You can't do this, you can only do that.

So, actually in Virginia, Sabra Dipping Sauce had two big outbreaks years ago. And then? The Director of Food Safety is Rob Mamoson. Rob actually spoke at the consortium, and he was, and it was interesting, he had his corporate attorney sitting next to him, and usually those are the ones that tell you to shut up, don't say anything. You can't do this, you can only do that.

By advice of our counsel, I emerged befriending from comment. Now, they both just put everything out on the table and discussed how bad they screwed up and what they were doing about, what they did to fix it.

By advice of our counsel, I emerged befriending from comment. Now, they both just put everything out on the table and discussed how bad they screwed up and what they were doing about, what they did to fix it.

They were an open book and, you know, people, I heard back, you know, this is probably one of those moments that where I heard back that, you know, someone just could not believe how open and honest and genuine they were.

They were an open book and, you know, people, I heard back, you know, this is probably one of those moments that where I heard back that, you know, someone just could not believe how open and honest and genuine they were.

But that is the community that's coming out to the conferences are like that. Yes, I would agree. You know, this is really an opportunity for us to say, hey, okay, we're taking all our shifts. We messed up. Here's what we've learned. Here's what we're doing going forward. I mean, they might be forced into this. This thing could be dragging out for a long time.

But that is the community that's coming out to the conferences are like that. Yes, I would agree. You know, this is really an opportunity for us to say, hey, okay, we're taking all our shifts. We messed up. Here's what we've learned. Here's what we're doing going forward. I mean, they might be forced into this. This thing could be dragging out for a long time.

They could be, you know, the CEO can drag them out of Congress. Yeah.

They could be, you know, the CEO can drag them out of Congress. Yeah.

With problems that they had, you know, and it took a door blowing off. Yeah. The point is, is that it ultimately comes down to worker integrity, which is a component of food safety culture. Agreed. So again, back to your point, we're speculating because we don't know right now, but was the culture one in which you should not speak up?

With problems that they had, you know, and it took a door blowing off. Yeah. The point is, is that it ultimately comes down to worker integrity, which is a component of food safety culture. Agreed. So again, back to your point, we're speculating because we don't know right now, but was the culture one in which you should not speak up?