Rick Carlson

Are you bootstrapped today?

Nothing raised?

We bootstrapped the company up until that point.

That's exactly right.

And then we were acquired really eight months afterwards.

It was kind of the time where we had to take on VC and another company came along that was an email service provider that seemed to marry up nicely with us from a technology perspective.

We ended up becoming part of that company, but very quickly outgrowing it.

And so the company...

And so we ended up selling the company that acquired us and as Sharpspring, the core business that we are today, outgrew it.

So we're 100% marketing automation now, but that wasn't the case for the last, call it two years, where we had a division that did what's called email relay, an email relay service, which is just kind of core email delivery.

Oh, I don't think we disclosed it, so I'm not sure.

Actually, that's not true.

I think it's public, so I think I can tell you it was $15 million.

Correct.

That's exactly right.

Yeah, so we didn't.

Actually, the company that acquired us was a very small public company called SMTP.

I was not part of that company.

They were public.

And so we became part of that company, ended up selling that company.