Rick Doblin

Yes. And that is where it could make sense in certain ways to have non-psychedelic psychedelics.

Yes. And that is where it could make sense in certain ways to have non-psychedelic psychedelics.

Yes. And that is where it could make sense in certain ways to have non-psychedelic psychedelics.

What, are you scared? Well, and then you get the insights, though, as well. Yes. But there's people that might not want that, it's difficult.

What, are you scared? Well, and then you get the insights, though, as well. Yes. But there's people that might not want that, it's difficult.

What, are you scared? Well, and then you get the insights, though, as well. Yes. But there's people that might not want that, it's difficult.

Yeah, there is actually a situation with cluster headaches. So cluster headaches are like suicide headaches. They're worse than migraines. And this is now back around 2003. A bunch of the people who had cluster headaches, one of them went to a party, did mushrooms, and found that it postponed the cycle and would interrupt the cycle of these cluster headaches, which are terrible.

Yeah, there is actually a situation with cluster headaches. So cluster headaches are like suicide headaches. They're worse than migraines. And this is now back around 2003. A bunch of the people who had cluster headaches, one of them went to a party, did mushrooms, and found that it postponed the cycle and would interrupt the cycle of these cluster headaches, which are terrible.

Yeah, there is actually a situation with cluster headaches. So cluster headaches are like suicide headaches. They're worse than migraines. And this is now back around 2003. A bunch of the people who had cluster headaches, one of them went to a party, did mushrooms, and found that it postponed the cycle and would interrupt the cycle of these cluster headaches, which are terrible.

And so they contacted me, and they formed this group called Cluster Busters. And they said, we don't want to be criminals anymore. We would like to study this. Can you help us study this? And I live in Boston right next to McLean Hospital, which is a part of Harvard Medical School. And I approached them and I said, would you want to study these people with criminality? cluster headaches.

And so they contacted me, and they formed this group called Cluster Busters. And they said, we don't want to be criminals anymore. We would like to study this. Can you help us study this? And I live in Boston right next to McLean Hospital, which is a part of Harvard Medical School. And I approached them and I said, would you want to study these people with criminality? cluster headaches.

And so they contacted me, and they formed this group called Cluster Busters. And they said, we don't want to be criminals anymore. We would like to study this. Can you help us study this? And I live in Boston right next to McLean Hospital, which is a part of Harvard Medical School. And I approached them and I said, would you want to study these people with criminality? cluster headaches.

And they said, sure, this is really interesting. So they brought in all these people and checked their medical records and determined that this was really the case, that psilocybin and LSD blocked cluster headache cycle and postponed the next cycle. And so we did all this research, and then the next step would have been to actually give LSD or psilocybin to people with cluster headaches.

And they said, sure, this is really interesting. So they brought in all these people and checked their medical records and determined that this was really the case, that psilocybin and LSD blocked cluster headache cycle and postponed the next cycle. And so we did all this research, and then the next step would have been to actually give LSD or psilocybin to people with cluster headaches.

And they said, sure, this is really interesting. So they brought in all these people and checked their medical records and determined that this was really the case, that psilocybin and LSD blocked cluster headache cycle and postponed the next cycle. And so we did all this research, and then the next step would have been to actually give LSD or psilocybin to people with cluster headaches.

And the people at Harvard, like, oh, Timothy Leary, he was here. We don't want to do this. God damn it, MKUltra. All of that.

And the people at Harvard, like, oh, Timothy Leary, he was here. We don't want to do this. God damn it, MKUltra. All of that.

And the people at Harvard, like, oh, Timothy Leary, he was here. We don't want to do this. God damn it, MKUltra. All of that.

Well, we're trying to get over that, but they did. But then the people at Harvard said, well, we will do this LSD or psilocybin, but only if it's the last resort, only if everything else fails. So the scientists, Torsten Pasi and John Halpern, decided that they would use a non-psychedelic version of LSD called bromo-LSD.

Well, we're trying to get over that, but they did. But then the people at Harvard said, well, we will do this LSD or psilocybin, but only if it's the last resort, only if everything else fails. So the scientists, Torsten Pasi and John Halpern, decided that they would use a non-psychedelic version of LSD called bromo-LSD.