Rick Doblin

Right. Well, Lester Grinspoon was the doctor at Harvard Medical School who was one of my mentors. And he was close personal friends with Carl Sagan. And Lester was an expert on medical marijuana. And he had a book about experiences with marijuana. Carl Sagan had to tell his story under a pseudonym because he didn't really want to be known for that.

Right. Well, Lester Grinspoon was the doctor at Harvard Medical School who was one of my mentors. And he was close personal friends with Carl Sagan. And Lester was an expert on medical marijuana. And he had a book about experiences with marijuana. Carl Sagan had to tell his story under a pseudonym because he didn't really want to be known for that.

Right. Well, Lester Grinspoon was the doctor at Harvard Medical School who was one of my mentors. And he was close personal friends with Carl Sagan. And Lester was an expert on medical marijuana. And he had a book about experiences with marijuana. Carl Sagan had to tell his story under a pseudonym because he didn't really want to be known for that.

Oh, yeah. And his wife, Andrean, was on the board of directors of the NORML to legalize marijuana, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Oh, yeah. And his wife, Andrean, was on the board of directors of the NORML to legalize marijuana, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Oh, yeah. And his wife, Andrean, was on the board of directors of the NORML to legalize marijuana, the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

Well, you just shared with me before we started talking about the Texas law that's trying to, if you could maybe share a bit about that.

Well, you just shared with me before we started talking about the Texas law that's trying to, if you could maybe share a bit about that.

Well, you just shared with me before we started talking about the Texas law that's trying to, if you could maybe share a bit about that.

Well, the other part of it is the tax money, too. When you're letting all this money go to the underground, to the cartels, to the criminal gangs, alternatively, you could have it as taxes, and it could make it easier on the rest of us. Right.

Well, the other part of it is the tax money, too. When you're letting all this money go to the underground, to the cartels, to the criminal gangs, alternatively, you could have it as taxes, and it could make it easier on the rest of us. Right.

Well, the other part of it is the tax money, too. When you're letting all this money go to the underground, to the cartels, to the criminal gangs, alternatively, you could have it as taxes, and it could make it easier on the rest of us. Right.

And prohibition of alcohol, actually, in the 20s led to organized crime in America.

And prohibition of alcohol, actually, in the 20s led to organized crime in America.

And prohibition of alcohol, actually, in the 20s led to organized crime in America.

Well, this idea that we're all going to die one day, one of the most important uses of psychedelics is to help people at the end of life who are scared of dying. And also for palliative care. So there's a lot of research that's been done with people with life-threatening illnesses who are anxious about dying and have received either MDMA or psilocybin or LSD in the 60s.

Well, this idea that we're all going to die one day, one of the most important uses of psychedelics is to help people at the end of life who are scared of dying. And also for palliative care. So there's a lot of research that's been done with people with life-threatening illnesses who are anxious about dying and have received either MDMA or psilocybin or LSD in the 60s.

Well, this idea that we're all going to die one day, one of the most important uses of psychedelics is to help people at the end of life who are scared of dying. And also for palliative care. So there's a lot of research that's been done with people with life-threatening illnesses who are anxious about dying and have received either MDMA or psilocybin or LSD in the 60s.

So the kind of big fears that we have about illness and death are When people are not able to process those fears, it just gets worse and worse.

So the kind of big fears that we have about illness and death are When people are not able to process those fears, it just gets worse and worse.