Rick Doblin

And that that was this wave that I think is unstoppable. That we're seeing the healing potentials in so many different ways with so many different drugs. So that gave me this realization. It was kind of reassuring, yeah, that even though we were the first out of the gate and the FDA wasn't ready, things are moving forward in a great way.

And that that was this wave that I think is unstoppable. That we're seeing the healing potentials in so many different ways with so many different drugs. So that gave me this realization. It was kind of reassuring, yeah, that even though we were the first out of the gate and the FDA wasn't ready, things are moving forward in a great way.

I think that's exactly right. Yeah, I think this – I'm smiling because you probably know this quote from John Ehrlichman, who was Nixon's domestic policy advisor. And this came out at the end of the 1970s. He did an interview. And he said that the two main enemies of the Nixon White House were the civil rights movement and the hippies, the anti-war movement.

I think that's exactly right. Yeah, I think this – I'm smiling because you probably know this quote from John Ehrlichman, who was Nixon's domestic policy advisor. And this came out at the end of the 1970s. He did an interview. And he said that the two main enemies of the Nixon White House were the civil rights movement and the hippies, the anti-war movement.

I think that's exactly right. Yeah, I think this – I'm smiling because you probably know this quote from John Ehrlichman, who was Nixon's domestic policy advisor. And this came out at the end of the 1970s. He did an interview. And he said that the two main enemies of the Nixon White House were the civil rights movement and the hippies, the anti-war movement.

And he said we couldn't stop them from protesting, but we could criminalize the drugs that they were using and use that to bust up their meetings, arrest their leaders. And he said, did we know that we were exaggerating the risks of these drugs? Of course we did.

And he said we couldn't stop them from protesting, but we could criminalize the drugs that they were using and use that to bust up their meetings, arrest their leaders. And he said, did we know that we were exaggerating the risks of these drugs? Of course we did.

And he said we couldn't stop them from protesting, but we could criminalize the drugs that they were using and use that to bust up their meetings, arrest their leaders. And he said, did we know that we were exaggerating the risks of these drugs? Of course we did.

It is. And when you talk about Brian Miorescu and The Immortality Key, which, by the way, is being made into a documentary. Phenomenal book. But the Eleusinian Mysteries is the longest-running mystery ceremony that we know of in the history of the world, roughly 2,000 years. It involved a psychedelic potion called Kikion.

It is. And when you talk about Brian Miorescu and The Immortality Key, which, by the way, is being made into a documentary. Phenomenal book. But the Eleusinian Mysteries is the longest-running mystery ceremony that we know of in the history of the world, roughly 2,000 years. It involved a psychedelic potion called Kikion.

It is. And when you talk about Brian Miorescu and The Immortality Key, which, by the way, is being made into a documentary. Phenomenal book. But the Eleusinian Mysteries is the longest-running mystery ceremony that we know of in the history of the world, roughly 2,000 years. It involved a psychedelic potion called Kikion.

It's not exactly clear what was in it, but it was wiped out in 396 by the Catholic Church because psychedelics offer a direct experience of spirituality. And often religious systems want to be the intermediaries. Exactly, they want to be the gatekeepers. Of course, power. When we think about the reintroduction of psychedelics, we talk about what happened in the Controlled Substances Act in 1970.

It's not exactly clear what was in it, but it was wiped out in 396 by the Catholic Church because psychedelics offer a direct experience of spirituality. And often religious systems want to be the intermediaries. Exactly, they want to be the gatekeepers. Of course, power. When we think about the reintroduction of psychedelics, we talk about what happened in the Controlled Substances Act in 1970.

It's not exactly clear what was in it, but it was wiped out in 396 by the Catholic Church because psychedelics offer a direct experience of spirituality. And often religious systems want to be the intermediaries. Exactly, they want to be the gatekeepers. Of course, power. When we think about the reintroduction of psychedelics, we talk about what happened in the Controlled Substances Act in 1970.

But it really goes all the way back to the destruction of the Eleusinian mysteries. And then we have a lot of the work in the Middle Ages where the women were mostly the plant medicine people. And then we have the burning of the witches.

But it really goes all the way back to the destruction of the Eleusinian mysteries. And then we have a lot of the work in the Middle Ages where the women were mostly the plant medicine people. And then we have the burning of the witches.

But it really goes all the way back to the destruction of the Eleusinian mysteries. And then we have a lot of the work in the Middle Ages where the women were mostly the plant medicine people. And then we have the burning of the witches.

When the conquistadors started coming into Western civilization here, which was indigenous civilizations, the first people that they tried to kill were the shamans that did the work with the mushrooms or the work with the peyote because they were the center of the communities. Now, these communities were not all, you know, peace and love. They were often warring and killing each other.

When the conquistadors started coming into Western civilization here, which was indigenous civilizations, the first people that they tried to kill were the shamans that did the work with the mushrooms or the work with the peyote because they were the center of the communities. Now, these communities were not all, you know, peace and love. They were often warring and killing each other.

When the conquistadors started coming into Western civilization here, which was indigenous civilizations, the first people that they tried to kill were the shamans that did the work with the mushrooms or the work with the peyote because they were the center of the communities. Now, these communities were not all, you know, peace and love. They were often warring and killing each other.