Rick Doblin

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that it's, again, really important to say that the tools are in some ways less important than the context within which they're used. So the social context. So, for example, religions often cozy up to the people in power. So there's an ayahuasca church, the Uniao de Vegetal. And they came from Brazil. They actually went to the U.S.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that it's, again, really important to say that the tools are in some ways less important than the context within which they're used. So the social context. So, for example, religions often cozy up to the people in power. So there's an ayahuasca church, the Uniao de Vegetal. And they came from Brazil. They actually went to the U.S.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that it's, again, really important to say that the tools are in some ways less important than the context within which they're used. So the social context. So, for example, religions often cozy up to the people in power. So there's an ayahuasca church, the Uniao de Vegetal. And they came from Brazil. They actually went to the U.S.

Supreme Court and got approval for practicing ayahuasca in the United States. But they're a syncretic religion, meaning that in order for them to survive, they had to merge with the church. So they've become patriarchal, homophobic, hierarchical. And some of the leaders of the Uniao de Vegetal aligned with Bolsonaro, who was about destroying the Amazon.

Supreme Court and got approval for practicing ayahuasca in the United States. But they're a syncretic religion, meaning that in order for them to survive, they had to merge with the church. So they've become patriarchal, homophobic, hierarchical. And some of the leaders of the Uniao de Vegetal aligned with Bolsonaro, who was about destroying the Amazon.

Supreme Court and got approval for practicing ayahuasca in the United States. But they're a syncretic religion, meaning that in order for them to survive, they had to merge with the church. So they've become patriarchal, homophobic, hierarchical. And some of the leaders of the Uniao de Vegetal aligned with Bolsonaro, who was about destroying the Amazon.

So that it doesn't—the tools themselves don't automatically make you a better person. It's the context. So it's the same way in therapy, that you can have these experiences, but it's the context in which you interpret them, and then it's the integration work that you do after that really makes the most sense. So that you can have psychedelic experiences, but if it's not in this—

So that it doesn't—the tools themselves don't automatically make you a better person. It's the context. So it's the same way in therapy, that you can have these experiences, but it's the context in which you interpret them, and then it's the integration work that you do after that really makes the most sense. So that you can have psychedelic experiences, but if it's not in this—

So that it doesn't—the tools themselves don't automatically make you a better person. It's the context. So it's the same way in therapy, that you can have these experiences, but it's the context in which you interpret them, and then it's the integration work that you do after that really makes the most sense. So that you can have psychedelic experiences, but if it's not in this—

therapeutic context where you're really open to deal with the different issues and things, fears of death, things that come up. So I think we need to make that clear that it's not just, it's a magic pill and it will produce better people.

therapeutic context where you're really open to deal with the different issues and things, fears of death, things that come up. So I think we need to make that clear that it's not just, it's a magic pill and it will produce better people.

therapeutic context where you're really open to deal with the different issues and things, fears of death, things that come up. So I think we need to make that clear that it's not just, it's a magic pill and it will produce better people.

No, we haven't.

No, we haven't.

No, we haven't.

Well, what he's basically saying is that... It's a real good chance that early monkeys and stuff would experiment with whatever they could around them to eat and that they would eat mushrooms and that mushrooms then elevated their consciousness, started helping develop language. I think it's plausible. I mean, I don't know that we'll know for sure.

Well, what he's basically saying is that... It's a real good chance that early monkeys and stuff would experiment with whatever they could around them to eat and that they would eat mushrooms and that mushrooms then elevated their consciousness, started helping develop language. I think it's plausible. I mean, I don't know that we'll know for sure.

Well, what he's basically saying is that... It's a real good chance that early monkeys and stuff would experiment with whatever they could around them to eat and that they would eat mushrooms and that mushrooms then elevated their consciousness, started helping develop language. I think it's plausible. I mean, I don't know that we'll know for sure.

That's what I talked about, this neuroplasticity. Yeah, that Gould-Dullin is talking about, opening these critical periods. Yes.

That's what I talked about, this neuroplasticity. Yeah, that Gould-Dullin is talking about, opening these critical periods. Yes.