Rick Jordan

One called All Cover that was actually bought, I think it was by Conica Minolta, right?

So by default, they were acquired by a public company and just remained a subsidiary.

I don't count that shit.

Going from startup 15 years ago to taking it public yourself, that's a different story.

Still the only one to this day.

And I say that humbly, of course, because after everything we talk through, there's a lot of scars that come with that.

But still even before then, being able to build it up to 4 million to make it to the point to where it's scalable like a McDonald's.

And again, I say this humbly, it's like, but it's still fact.

It's like I did it.

There's a lot because my whole reason for trying to build this nationwide brand and all that to begin with is it's just like I want to do something that actually matters for people.

I see so many and it's not just an MSPs, but in generally speaking, small businesses to begin with.

The SBA has revised their number recently as far as how much owners of businesses actually typically take home on average.

It's up to increase a little bit.

Ryan, it's up to like sixty eight thousand dollars a year now.

That's stupid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can make more working for somebody else.

Yeah, exactly.

Without the stress and the headaches and all that stuff.