Rick Perry

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If it does what we think it's going to do, and that's the reason these clinical trials are just so stunningly important.

That's the reason what the Center for Brain Health and what they're going to be doing and the data they're going to be collecting.

I'm convinced of what this data is going to show.

But for all of those individuals out there who don't have substance abuse problems, who weren't traumatized as a child, but who have been concussed,

And we know that that damage is out there and that the cumulative side, Robert Gallery, that great professional football player who had really bad CTE, and he will tell you today this medicine saved his life.

My question for you, Joe Rogan, is how many times do you think you've been concussed in life?

But if we think about that, if there is this cumulative effect.

Yeah.

How old are you now?

Fifty-eight.

Would Joe Rogan be willing to say, you know what?

I've seen enough.

I believe that this medicine does what you say it will do.

And for a person like me, that it could be incredibly helpful to my –

My long-term plan of living a long and healthy and engaged life that Joe Rogan would go and be treated with Ibogaine.

That's probably a sugar addiction, don't you think?

I mean from the standpoint of – It is.

And I might add one of the challenges that I've seen over my 40 years of being involved in government is that

bureaucrats, the easiest and the safest answer for a bureaucrat is no.