Rick Ross

And in that show, Laurie would show pictures of her kids, tell her story, and leaders from 12 tribes also appeared on the show with me. And I would then talk with them at the hotel that we were put up in. And I would say to them, Why don't you guys just give Lori back her kids?

And in that show, Laurie would show pictures of her kids, tell her story, and leaders from 12 tribes also appeared on the show with me. And I would then talk with them at the hotel that we were put up in. And I would say to them, Why don't you guys just give Lori back her kids?

And in that show, Laurie would show pictures of her kids, tell her story, and leaders from 12 tribes also appeared on the show with me. And I would then talk with them at the hotel that we were put up in. And I would say to them, Why don't you guys just give Lori back her kids?

And then people will think that you're not so bad, that you're not a bad cult because you're being sensitive and caring about this mother who wants to be reunited with her children. And they would repeatedly just say to me, oh, well, you know, we don't know where the kids are. We don't know where they are.

And then people will think that you're not so bad, that you're not a bad cult because you're being sensitive and caring about this mother who wants to be reunited with her children. And they would repeatedly just say to me, oh, well, you know, we don't know where the kids are. We don't know where they are.

And then people will think that you're not so bad, that you're not a bad cult because you're being sensitive and caring about this mother who wants to be reunited with her children. And they would repeatedly just say to me, oh, well, you know, we don't know where the kids are. We don't know where they are.

And then they would make outrageous accusations that Lori was immoral, that she was a harlot, whatever, really totally baseless. But the point is they would not come clean. And eventually the children were found in the community. And when I talked to the children, they most definitely knew.

And then they would make outrageous accusations that Lori was immoral, that she was a harlot, whatever, really totally baseless. But the point is they would not come clean. And eventually the children were found in the community. And when I talked to the children, they most definitely knew.

And then they would make outrageous accusations that Lori was immoral, that she was a harlot, whatever, really totally baseless. But the point is they would not come clean. And eventually the children were found in the community. And when I talked to the children, they most definitely knew.

They told me that Gene Spriggs specifically knew where they were and that other leaders in the group knew where they were and that they were deliberately hidden from their mother for years. Wow. Wow. So is that whole organization? The organization is still going. I'm not clear as to who's really running it.

They told me that Gene Spriggs specifically knew where they were and that other leaders in the group knew where they were and that they were deliberately hidden from their mother for years. Wow. Wow. So is that whole organization? The organization is still going. I'm not clear as to who's really running it.

They told me that Gene Spriggs specifically knew where they were and that other leaders in the group knew where they were and that they were deliberately hidden from their mother for years. Wow. Wow. So is that whole organization? The organization is still going. I'm not clear as to who's really running it.

I mean, it may evolve and change, but it's been a very authoritarian, very destructive group for many years. And do you know, Sean, at one time, they had contracts with Robert Redford, Sundance Catalog, Trader Joe's, and Estee Lauder to do packaging in regards to products.

I mean, it may evolve and change, but it's been a very authoritarian, very destructive group for many years. And do you know, Sean, at one time, they had contracts with Robert Redford, Sundance Catalog, Trader Joe's, and Estee Lauder to do packaging in regards to products.

I mean, it may evolve and change, but it's been a very authoritarian, very destructive group for many years. And do you know, Sean, at one time, they had contracts with Robert Redford, Sundance Catalog, Trader Joe's, and Estee Lauder to do packaging in regards to products.

But when it was exposed, and I had a part in that, there were former members who told me about these sweatshops where these members of the group were working. And unbeknownst to these companies, their product was being packaged and produced through this often child labor, illegal labor.

But when it was exposed, and I had a part in that, there were former members who told me about these sweatshops where these members of the group were working. And unbeknownst to these companies, their product was being packaged and produced through this often child labor, illegal labor.

But when it was exposed, and I had a part in that, there were former members who told me about these sweatshops where these members of the group were working. And unbeknownst to these companies, their product was being packaged and produced through this often child labor, illegal labor.

Well, that was eventually exposed, and they were raided by New York labor authorities, and those contracts were shut down. But Spriggs used to use companies like Estee Lauder, Trader Joe's, Robert Redford Sundance Catalog, to make money off of his people. He was basically selling them as like slave labor, and they were working under extraordinarily difficult conditions, often unsafe.

Well, that was eventually exposed, and they were raided by New York labor authorities, and those contracts were shut down. But Spriggs used to use companies like Estee Lauder, Trader Joe's, Robert Redford Sundance Catalog, to make money off of his people. He was basically selling them as like slave labor, and they were working under extraordinarily difficult conditions, often unsafe.