Rick Ross

But the only way that he will agree to spend time with us is if we come to group activities. And whenever we do that, they're just bombarding us with, you know, manipulative talk about how we need to rejoin the group and be in the group. And that's not what we want. And so I told the kids, I said, look, you know, you can tell your dad, you know, dad, we love you. We love you.

But the only way that he will agree to spend time with us is if we come to group activities. And whenever we do that, they're just bombarding us with, you know, manipulative talk about how we need to rejoin the group and be in the group. And that's not what we want. And so I told the kids, I said, look, you know, you can tell your dad, you know, dad, we love you. We love you.

We want a relationship with you. But we do not love 12 tribes. And we do not want 12 tribes. But we want you. And we are willing to meet with you and spend time with you. But we don't want to deal with the group. And we don't want to hear about the group. And in fairness, we're not going to criticize the group. We just want to spend quality time with you, Dad.

We want a relationship with you. But we do not love 12 tribes. And we do not want 12 tribes. But we want you. And we are willing to meet with you and spend time with you. But we don't want to deal with the group. And we don't want to hear about the group. And in fairness, we're not going to criticize the group. We just want to spend quality time with you, Dad.

We want a relationship with you. But we do not love 12 tribes. And we do not want 12 tribes. But we want you. And we are willing to meet with you and spend time with you. But we don't want to deal with the group. And we don't want to hear about the group. And in fairness, we're not going to criticize the group. We just want to spend quality time with you, Dad.

And as far as I know, he would never agree to that. And his relationship with the children ended. And so there are children that leave groups like this, and it's very, very hard on them because their family shuns them. They don't know people outside of the group. They may not have an education because the group didn't want them to.

And as far as I know, he would never agree to that. And his relationship with the children ended. And so there are children that leave groups like this, and it's very, very hard on them because their family shuns them. They don't know people outside of the group. They may not have an education because the group didn't want them to.

And as far as I know, he would never agree to that. And his relationship with the children ended. And so there are children that leave groups like this, and it's very, very hard on them because their family shuns them. They don't know people outside of the group. They may not have an education because the group didn't want them to.

And so they're not prepared to work in the outside world and to adapt. Many of them, though, have construction skills and certain things that they can get a job. Wow. That sounds very similar to...

And so they're not prepared to work in the outside world and to adapt. Many of them, though, have construction skills and certain things that they can get a job. Wow. That sounds very similar to...

And so they're not prepared to work in the outside world and to adapt. Many of them, though, have construction skills and certain things that they can get a job. Wow. That sounds very similar to...

Yeah. But here's the interesting thing, is that so many people that leave these high control groups blame themselves. They say, you know, I failed. It's a shame on me. And they haven't sorted it out. They haven't unpacked it. And so what I would urge any of them to do is I'll plug my book, read my book, Cults Inside Out, and understand that you are not alone.

Yeah. But here's the interesting thing, is that so many people that leave these high control groups blame themselves. They say, you know, I failed. It's a shame on me. And they haven't sorted it out. They haven't unpacked it. And so what I would urge any of them to do is I'll plug my book, read my book, Cults Inside Out, and understand that you are not alone.

Yeah. But here's the interesting thing, is that so many people that leave these high control groups blame themselves. They say, you know, I failed. It's a shame on me. And they haven't sorted it out. They haven't unpacked it. And so what I would urge any of them to do is I'll plug my book, read my book, Cults Inside Out, and understand that you are not alone.

that there are many, many other people that have gone through this experience and that they've survived and that you need to unpack it. You need to know that your group was very much like these other groups. And if these other groups are called cults, what does that mean about your group? And is it really your fault that you left?

that there are many, many other people that have gone through this experience and that they've survived and that you need to unpack it. You need to know that your group was very much like these other groups. And if these other groups are called cults, what does that mean about your group? And is it really your fault that you left?

that there are many, many other people that have gone through this experience and that they've survived and that you need to unpack it. You need to know that your group was very much like these other groups. And if these other groups are called cults, what does that mean about your group? And is it really your fault that you left?

Or is it the group's fault that they had unreasonable expectations and demands that they made and that they were too controlling and that they were suffocating you? And so you had to leave. Much like a woman who's leaving an abusive, controlling relationship will feel like, well, I can't leave

Or is it the group's fault that they had unreasonable expectations and demands that they made and that they were too controlling and that they were suffocating you? And so you had to leave. Much like a woman who's leaving an abusive, controlling relationship will feel like, well, I can't leave

Or is it the group's fault that they had unreasonable expectations and demands that they made and that they were too controlling and that they were suffocating you? And so you had to leave. Much like a woman who's leaving an abusive, controlling relationship will feel like, well, I can't leave