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Rick Ross

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And if you leave and they announce that you have been disfellowshipped, your family may shun you.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Now, some witnesses may navigate that a bit more carefully. For example, Michael Jackson was raised a witness and he left, but his family continued to talk to him. Some would argue, well, he was a rich celebrity and they gave him special treatment. But on the other hand, I think he did what was called disassociation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Now, some witnesses may navigate that a bit more carefully. For example, Michael Jackson was raised a witness and he left, but his family continued to talk to him. Some would argue, well, he was a rich celebrity and they gave him special treatment. But on the other hand, I think he did what was called disassociation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Now, some witnesses may navigate that a bit more carefully. For example, Michael Jackson was raised a witness and he left, but his family continued to talk to him. Some would argue, well, he was a rich celebrity and they gave him special treatment. But on the other hand, I think he did what was called disassociation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

So there was a little bit more of a nuanced departure for him and he wasn't cut off by his family. So I think it's possible to navigate out of the witnesses without that, but many, many people are shunned and disfellowshipped and they go through an enormous amount of pain and suffering.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

So there was a little bit more of a nuanced departure for him and he wasn't cut off by his family. So I think it's possible to navigate out of the witnesses without that, but many, many people are shunned and disfellowshipped and they go through an enormous amount of pain and suffering.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

So there was a little bit more of a nuanced departure for him and he wasn't cut off by his family. So I think it's possible to navigate out of the witnesses without that, but many, many people are shunned and disfellowshipped and they go through an enormous amount of pain and suffering.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And I have testified in court many times about the witnesses in custody cases and in one wrongful death case, the Coughlin case, which we talked about on the way over. And, you know, what happens is, let's say there's a couple and they're both witnesses, but one leaves. Divorce. And then custody battle over the minor children.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And I have testified in court many times about the witnesses in custody cases and in one wrongful death case, the Coughlin case, which we talked about on the way over. And, you know, what happens is, let's say there's a couple and they're both witnesses, but one leaves. Divorce. And then custody battle over the minor children.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And I have testified in court many times about the witnesses in custody cases and in one wrongful death case, the Coughlin case, which we talked about on the way over. And, you know, what happens is, let's say there's a couple and they're both witnesses, but one leaves. Divorce. And then custody battle over the minor children.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And it can get very intense, where the children really get caught in this war or struggle because the witnesses feel that they can't celebrate birthdays, they can't celebrate Christmas, They don't acknowledge holidays. Only the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and Jehovah's Witnesses is what they celebrate or adhere to or whatever. So the end result is that the child is in the middle

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And it can get very intense, where the children really get caught in this war or struggle because the witnesses feel that they can't celebrate birthdays, they can't celebrate Christmas, They don't acknowledge holidays. Only the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and Jehovah's Witnesses is what they celebrate or adhere to or whatever. So the end result is that the child is in the middle

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And it can get very intense, where the children really get caught in this war or struggle because the witnesses feel that they can't celebrate birthdays, they can't celebrate Christmas, They don't acknowledge holidays. Only the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society and Jehovah's Witnesses is what they celebrate or adhere to or whatever. So the end result is that the child is in the middle

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

and the parents are fighting, and the witness parent wants to raise the child as a witness. And frequently what happens is they will, if they have custody, turn that child against the non-witness parent. This is happening to my editor right now.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

and the parents are fighting, and the witness parent wants to raise the child as a witness. And frequently what happens is they will, if they have custody, turn that child against the non-witness parent. This is happening to my editor right now.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

and the parents are fighting, and the witness parent wants to raise the child as a witness. And frequently what happens is they will, if they have custody, turn that child against the non-witness parent. This is happening to my editor right now.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

You know, well, I've testified in these custody cases, and in most of the cases that I've testified in, of course, I am working for the parent who is not a witness. One case, for example, that I worked on, the father had become a witness even though he wasn't one when he married his wife and they had their children, and it became a source of friction.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

You know, well, I've testified in these custody cases, and in most of the cases that I've testified in, of course, I am working for the parent who is not a witness. One case, for example, that I worked on, the father had become a witness even though he wasn't one when he married his wife and they had their children, and it became a source of friction.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

You know, well, I've testified in these custody cases, and in most of the cases that I've testified in, of course, I am working for the parent who is not a witness. One case, for example, that I worked on, the father had become a witness even though he wasn't one when he married his wife and they had their children, and it became a source of friction.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And the end result was that the wife divorced him. And I testified about how the witnesses and their beliefs would impact the children and how it would affect them. For example, they couldn't be a Boy Scout or a Girl Scout. They couldn't be in Little League. They couldn't celebrate holidays. They couldn't go to a Christmas party, and so on.