Rick Spence

I mean, I couldn't even hack the Boy Scouts, okay? That was too much of that. Because to me, you join an organization and the first thing that comes along is there are rules and someone is telling you what to do. I don't like people telling me what to do. Spent much of my life trying to avoid that as much as possible. And join a cult, there's going to be someone telling you what to do.

I mean, I couldn't even hack the Boy Scouts, okay? That was too much of that. Because to me, you join an organization and the first thing that comes along is there are rules and someone is telling you what to do. I don't like people telling me what to do. Spent much of my life trying to avoid that as much as possible. And join a cult, there's going to be someone telling you what to do.

Join the Bohemian Club and there's going to be someone telling you what to do. Obviously, a lot of people I really get something out of that. In some ways, it's sort of necessary for them to function. But I do not understand it, and my study of it is a personal error to try to understand why people do that.

Join the Bohemian Club and there's going to be someone telling you what to do. Obviously, a lot of people I really get something out of that. In some ways, it's sort of necessary for them to function. But I do not understand it, and my study of it is a personal error to try to understand why people do that.

Join the Bohemian Club and there's going to be someone telling you what to do. Obviously, a lot of people I really get something out of that. In some ways, it's sort of necessary for them to function. But I do not understand it, and my study of it is a personal error to try to understand why people do that.

Well, I guess we could start with what on earth is the Thule Society? So the Thule Society was a small German occult society. That is, they studied metaphysics, another fancy word for occultism, that appeared in Munich around 1917, 1918. The key figure behind it was a German esotericist by the name of Rudolf von Zabotendorf. Okay, not his real name. His real name was Adam Rudolf Glauer.

Well, I guess we could start with what on earth is the Thule Society? So the Thule Society was a small German occult society. That is, they studied metaphysics, another fancy word for occultism, that appeared in Munich around 1917, 1918. The key figure behind it was a German esotericist by the name of Rudolf von Zabotendorf. Okay, not his real name. His real name was Adam Rudolf Glauer.

Well, I guess we could start with what on earth is the Thule Society? So the Thule Society was a small German occult society. That is, they studied metaphysics, another fancy word for occultism, that appeared in Munich around 1917, 1918. The key figure behind it was a German esotericist by the name of Rudolf von Zabotendorf. Okay, not his real name. His real name was Adam Rudolf Glauer.

He was adopted by a German nobleman and got the name von Zabotendorf. And I like to say that name. So I have this real thing about vague, mysterious characters who show up and do things. And trying to figure out who these people are. So we're working up in the years sort of prior to the First World War. So the decade or so prior to World War I, he spends a lot of time in the Ottoman Empire.

He was adopted by a German nobleman and got the name von Zabotendorf. And I like to say that name. So I have this real thing about vague, mysterious characters who show up and do things. And trying to figure out who these people are. So we're working up in the years sort of prior to the First World War. So the decade or so prior to World War I, he spends a lot of time in the Ottoman Empire.

He was adopted by a German nobleman and got the name von Zabotendorf. And I like to say that name. So I have this real thing about vague, mysterious characters who show up and do things. And trying to figure out who these people are. So we're working up in the years sort of prior to the First World War. So the decade or so prior to World War I, he spends a lot of time in the Ottoman Empire.

Turkey. There was none in the Ottoman Empire. Which was a fairly tumultuous place. Because in 1908 and 1909, there was the Young Turk Revolution. And you had a kind of military coup, which effectively overthrew the Ottoman Sultan and installed a military junta, which would go on during the First World War to make its greatest achievement in the Armenian genocide.

Turkey. There was none in the Ottoman Empire. Which was a fairly tumultuous place. Because in 1908 and 1909, there was the Young Turk Revolution. And you had a kind of military coup, which effectively overthrew the Ottoman Sultan and installed a military junta, which would go on during the First World War to make its greatest achievement in the Armenian genocide.

Turkey. There was none in the Ottoman Empire. Which was a fairly tumultuous place. Because in 1908 and 1909, there was the Young Turk Revolution. And you had a kind of military coup, which effectively overthrew the Ottoman Sultan and installed a military junta, which would go on during the First World War to make its greatest achievement in the Armenian genocide.

Eventually, he created a genocidal military regime, which would lead the country into disastrous First World War, which would destroy the Ottoman Empire. out of which modern Turkey emerges. Yada, yada, yada.

Eventually, he created a genocidal military regime, which would lead the country into disastrous First World War, which would destroy the Ottoman Empire. out of which modern Turkey emerges. Yada, yada, yada.

Eventually, he created a genocidal military regime, which would lead the country into disastrous First World War, which would destroy the Ottoman Empire. out of which modern Turkey emerges. Yada, yada, yada.

It's one of those things that often comes out of revolutionary situations. Revolutions always, always, always seek to make things better, don't they? We're going to take a bad old regime, you know, the sultan does, you know. And the sultan was bad, I think it's fair to say. Abdulhamid II was... It wasn't called the Red Sultan because of his favorite color type of thing.

It's one of those things that often comes out of revolutionary situations. Revolutions always, always, always seek to make things better, don't they? We're going to take a bad old regime, you know, the sultan does, you know. And the sultan was bad, I think it's fair to say. Abdulhamid II was... It wasn't called the Red Sultan because of his favorite color type of thing.

It's one of those things that often comes out of revolutionary situations. Revolutions always, always, always seek to make things better, don't they? We're going to take a bad old regime, you know, the sultan does, you know. And the sultan was bad, I think it's fair to say. Abdulhamid II was... It wasn't called the Red Sultan because of his favorite color type of thing.