Rick Wilson

e.g.

Korematsu and Dred Scott, or must soon be unwound, e.g.

United States v. Trump and citizens.

Both of those cases that have reshaped the landscape of America fundamentally, if you tell a president you can't commit a crime, you're innocent of anything, you can do whatever you want –

Human nature is pretty predictable, Amy.

I think if somebody said to me, you can go out, walk into that bank, take everything out of the till, and you can't be prosecuted for it, guess what?

People are going to start robbing banks at scale.

It's human nature.

And the only people – and it's funny because Congress blames –

uh the supreme court well they give trump immunity and the supreme court blames congress well that's a political question i'm not going to handle that you the congress's job nobody wants to take responsibility it's like who will put the bell on the cat in the old children's fairy tale right yeah well it's like it's like mcconnell when the trump's second impeachment came up and he said well we'll leave it to the courts leave it to the courts

Yes, it is.

You do that.

It is explicitly meant to be a political sanction.

Like a Roman emperor.

No, you know, look, my parents were quite liberal Democrats.

The day before I was born, my mom was pregnant out to yay, went to see John F. Kennedy and a big young Democrats thing that they were doing in Tampa, Florida, 1963.

I was born one day before he was killed.

I came from like a Southern, Southern democratic conservative background in some ways, but things became, you know, when I was growing up, there was a perception that, that

because of the way I was raised, the way I was brought up, that personal responsibility was a big thing and that the rule of law was a big thing and that the Constitution was not a sort of set of helpful suggestions.

It was the rules.