Rider Strong

I know.

Because it was the only way to, because otherwise it's like, don't get it done, man.

Yeah, I know.

Life just keeps happening.

Yeah, that's true.

But will you?

When you wake up and there's nothing else to do and everyone else is still asleep, it's like, okay, I have to get this done.

That was a big thing for me.

It was like, cause I, I've tried to listen to a lot of scripted podcasts and you know, there's just a level of like,

when you know actors are sitting in a booth and recording it, it feels a little, it's harder to like buy into it.

You know, it just doesn't, you can always tell when someone's acting with their voice.

And so that's why I wanted to use real material.

Like we never were in a booth.

Like we never, you know, besides my voiceover, everything is on location.

Like, so if a scene took place at a diner, we're like in a real diner while it's open.

We're just like having real conversations.

I improvised like crazy.

Like, so it was a lot of outlining, but the whole goal was to just make it as real as possible, you know?

And when I listen to scripted stuff, it's hard for my ear to like buy in, you know.

But when I listen to like people just actually talking, it's really intriguing, you know, like podcasting.