Rima Grace

It feels ironic that the feeling I was trying to fix, the anxiety of not having enough, was actually the thing keeping me stuck.

Okay, now back to Wharton professor Wendy De La Rosa.

We often tend to think about financial decision-making as hard numbers on a spreadsheet, and it's not.

Like, there's nothing more emotional than how we feel about our money and how we make financial decisions.

Yeah.

And this is like a lot of this conversation assumes that you have the basic needs met, right?

Rima, I think that's such a great point.

I think I have a personal convulsion that happens inside of me when people say like money doesn't make you happy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Actually, my life right now is objectively better than what my life was like 20 years ago.

It's nice.

It's nice to have a little more.

Yeah, so it was clear when I was younger that we didn't have enough.

The answer was clear, no.

And how much is enough?

I think that was a question where, man, if we can have our own apartment, that would be amazing.

They were clear, tangible ways in which we can answer that question that were about meeting people's basic needs.

Now, I remember after I started working, I had paid off my student loans.

And for the first time, I could ask myself the question, how do I want to contribute to society or what brings me joy?

I think we have to be really realistic for a lot of people.