Rishi Keish-Hirwe

Thanks so much. Thanks for having me. I'm very excited to be here.

Thanks so much. Thanks for having me. I'm very excited to be here.

I'm feeling a little stressed right away, but excited still.

I'm feeling a little stressed right away, but excited still.

I feel like part of my stress is definitely because of the topic of this podcast.

I feel like part of my stress is definitely because of the topic of this podcast.

I think that I've been conditioned to be stressed out by gossip from birth. My family's Indian, and my mom had a real sort of what would the community think aspect to, I don't know, the way that she raised my sister and myself.

I think that I've been conditioned to be stressed out by gossip from birth. My family's Indian, and my mom had a real sort of what would the community think aspect to, I don't know, the way that she raised my sister and myself.

You know, just making sure that you don't give any fodder to this sort of... vague idea of an outside world so that they might have something bad to say about you. You also don't want to be too showy or look too good because you don't want people to give you the evil eye. But you just need to ride a sort of somewhere in the high middle where people will talk about

You know, just making sure that you don't give any fodder to this sort of... vague idea of an outside world so that they might have something bad to say about you. You also don't want to be too showy or look too good because you don't want people to give you the evil eye. But you just need to ride a sort of somewhere in the high middle where people will talk about

Oh, how good you are at school and where you ended up going to college, but not so much that people will give you the evil eye and not so badly that people will be like, did you hear about their daughter?

Oh, how good you are at school and where you ended up going to college, but not so much that people will give you the evil eye and not so badly that people will be like, did you hear about their daughter?

You know, I don't even think that the term gossip was really used. It was just the way that people talked about each other. But sometimes that information would be good and sometimes that information would be negative.

You know, I don't even think that the term gossip was really used. It was just the way that people talked about each other. But sometimes that information would be good and sometimes that information would be negative.

And I was just deathly afraid of anybody saying anything negative about me in a way that I find, you know, like I can joke about it a little bit, but I actually think that it had serious kind of crippling ramifications for me as an adult and for me as like a professional and creative person.

And I was just deathly afraid of anybody saying anything negative about me in a way that I find, you know, like I can joke about it a little bit, but I actually think that it had serious kind of crippling ramifications for me as an adult and for me as like a professional and creative person.

Yeah. I mean, and especially I think as a musician, as a songwriter, it's really hard.

Yeah. I mean, and especially I think as a musician, as a songwriter, it's really hard.

I've only recently kind of come to appreciate how much distance I feel between the world of like punk rock and rock and roll and this kind of like, who cares, you know, middle finger to the air kind of attitude that is, I think represents so much of what people love about that kind of music and where that music comes from.

I've only recently kind of come to appreciate how much distance I feel between the world of like punk rock and rock and roll and this kind of like, who cares, you know, middle finger to the air kind of attitude that is, I think represents so much of what people love about that kind of music and where that music comes from.