Rishikesh Hirway

Shout out throat coat.

Yeah.

Throat coat tea and lozenges.

Fisherman friend.

Oh, fisherman.

Yeah.

Uh, just trying to, um, trying to get to someplace where I could sing and, uh,

Yeah, on some of those songs, I'm definitely, you know, just barely out of the, like creeping out of congestion.

Wow.

Did you really?

Yeah.

What is the effect of doing that?

Why would you do that?

I think after the fact, we just felt like, you know, let's try it.

Like, let's see if this just how it might change it a little bit, you know, just just bumping it up a tiny bit.

And I think that's what we ended up using that for the album.

Yeah, I remember this interview that I'd done for Song Exploder with Brandi Carlile and that I think planted some kind of seed that Phil was then kind of encouraging to grow out of my brain because she'd said this thing.

I loved what she said so much that I started the episode with it and I pulled it up if you want to hear it.

Did you do a lot of like rehearsal pre-production of this song before you started actually recording it for real?

I love the way that she put that and it's really, it echoes so much of what Phil said too.