RJ (Rivian Founder and CEO)

We should talk all the time.

That's the easiest way of saying it. That's kind of sinister.

I would need an operation. But they will. No, no, no, no, no. So we were doing frog pose and it just it takes time. The thing with flexibility is you can't force it at first. You kind of have to let your body ease into it. And then once your body can ease into it, that's when we figure out how to contract muscles in a certain way. Yeah.

And then when it lets go, when you let it go, then you fall forward.

Yo, that'd be great. Let's do it. We'll both dress how you're dressing today. We'll do it.

I'm not involved, but then somehow, you know, I inherit all the benefits in the inheriting part. Probably not. But I need somebody to be like my camera guy when I'm stretching. Oh. Like, don't want to see my hand photos. I have.

Yeah. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was really into martial arts. The first thing I told my mom of what I wanted to be when I grew up was a Power Ranger. Wow. So then she got me into martial arts and I just stayed. I ended up doing that for a little over 20 years.

You can beat one. Let's do it. Let's find a Power Ranger.

Well, first, thank you for joining me here. I mean, the story goes way back to me being a kid, and I grew up a massive car enthusiast. And I realized, as I got a little bit older, I realized they were causing so many problems. There you go. And so you first realize they're polluting, so they're causing air quality issues.

Then you pull the thread, and you're like, oh, it's causing a lot of our global disputes with challenges of accessing oil. Then you pull the thread a little further, and you're like, oh, this is one of the primary contributors to climate change.

And then I fell into this feeling of like, oh boy, these things I love, is it wrong of me to like cars? And decided I wanted to work on them and be part of the solution to figure out how to make personal transportation and the automobile something that can continue to exist and exist in a positive way. Sure.

We have a guiding principle that we use in how we make decisions within the business. And some of the hardest decisions you can get, you know, completely sort of twisted around thinking about how to make the decision. And the way we simplify it is we think of it through the lens of our kids, kids, kids.

And it's helpful both in terms of helping you to identify what are the important pieces. But I find it's incredibly, it's incredibly inviting to all different points of view. And, you know, a lot of the debates and discussion and some of the tension we see, I think, in society today is actually around different tactics on how we create a better world for our kids, kids, kids.

And I think it's just important to recognize that at least that's a point of commonality. And whether you're on you know, whatever side of the political you're on, different countries, different cultures, everywhere I go, I find that to be really consistent is that We as humanity want a better world for our kids.

And so when I look at the world as we're in it today, we've got a complete global ecosystem that's been built around fossil fuels that we, this generation, is responsible for driving an inflection point off of that.

And that was already like an amazing opportunity. Like how lucky are we to be part of the end of what the history books will say many, many years from now, the fossil fuel era.

I think it's a remarkably exciting, but as you said, a challenging time.

We're happy to be involved. So thank you. Thank you.