Rob Beckett

Even if you're not a boxing fan.

Yeah, exactly.

But if you are, there's certain fighters...

in world boxing, that when they come into a room, it turns you to, like, a little excited schoolboy again.

And Naz is one of them.

Brings back memories.

Yeah, when you came in, you were very complimentary to me, which hopefully you can repeat on the record.

I'm going to do now.

Oh, it's so good.

I'm going to do now.

It was good, wasn't it?

I'm enjoying this smoke being blown up my arse.

We're going to have to move on.

But what I would say is, without people like you, when I watched when I was younger,

I wouldn't have had the confidence to go on.

But seeing someone like you go from nothing on the streets of Sheffield, putting up with racism in the street, to go up to be loved by the whole country was an incredible rags to riches story that resonated with a whole generation of working class people.

It's stuff like that that helps people.

It's the first time he can check to see if he's talking.

Yeah.

Because you had a great quote when, obviously, any son of a former fighter, and especially the statue you got to, there's that question of, like, is he going to be as good as you and stuff like that.