Rob Bradford

But the amount of money at stake and the damage you would do to the sport with any sort of real work stoppage.

It's so obviously a bad idea when there is so much money coming into the sport that it seems to me likely that they'll find some way to play a full schedule.

It'll just be really ugly to get there.

That's my guess.

But if the owners decide we want our franchise values to go up and we're going to do whatever it takes to get there.

Well, Rob, we'll have a lot of time to talk labor and men's clothing stores in Boston coming in 2017.

All right.

So you adequately have articulated how it's different because the one aggressor is now the guy fending off and the guy fending off is now the aggressor.

But what I would ask you is that, so you talk to these people, you talk to both sides, right?

The tone of them, the tone of them.

And you're right.

I mean, I remember, Evan, you were probably at that gate in Jupiter, like in March.

Remember that?

It was like a week before they settled.

I try not to.

The end of the earth, right?

It was literally the end of we're not having a season.

And then a week later, they figure it out.

But is one side talking tougher than they had been last time around?

Because as I said, you have heard on the record, off the record, everything, how these guys, what the tone is for these same people of just a few years ago.