Rob Cesternino

I don't know.

Yeah, itchy.

Yeah.

okay and i i hear you're a big fan i'm the only like non-septogenarian that watches slow horses that's a woman like everyone that i know that watches slow horses my dad he's 80 and my father-in-law he's 77 and they're yeah king absolutely i'm addicted to gary oldman yeah he can absolutely break me in half love him um

Yeah, come on.

I mean, him in... Pretty much anything.

One of my favorite films of all time, Fifth Element.

So good.

Okay, what is Slow Horses about?

It's about a reject division of MI6.

Oh.

That sounds awesome.

You would.

And, you know, it's like them solving...

global terror oh do you feel like their marketing team just like wasn't that good or something why do i feel like it's so it's based on a book series okay and i think that as are a lot of programs on apple tv i don't think apple tv necessarily does like the best marketing yeah i would say or apple you're gonna watch it or not watch it whatever the thing about apple is like guess what it's on all of your devices and it's like you see it

But I feel like they only really did really strong marketing for like Severance and like F1.

Yeah.

Like, I don't know.

I don't feel like they, I feel like they don't even really push morning show that hard.

Yeah.