Rob Draper

you would kind of think actually but I do also think the balance has to be the manager has to be empowered to manage and you know he has to take the decisions that he thinks are best for the team and he has to be focused on winning the game so you cannot as a manager be worrying about unless something egregious happens that is outside the law off the pitch then I think things get different but on the pitch if someone's qualified to play you don't start taking decisions like oh I might drop him because he was being a bit bad during the game

No.

I mean, obviously the famous John Terry example of being found guilty for racism by an FA inquiry precipitates Fabio Capella's departure from the job because he thinks, well, similarly, like Ramsey, different circumstances, obviously.

Well, you don't tell me who to pick.

I'll decide who to pick.

yeah i mean i just don't think there there are comparable examples for no for on fieldings i mean i yeah but the fa was very clear the fa chairman at the time david bernstein was very clear that you cannot i think it was an issue over whether he was captain rather than he was right yeah yeah it was that you cannot be england captain do that he after his ban he was going to be available to be picked it's just that he couldn't be captain and fabio thought that was a

gross intervention into his domain, I suppose.

So the FA, the football associations do have to think more ambassadorily.

I mean, there is more at stake than just the result.

But I think it's probably right in this circumstance for the manager to push back.

But it is, you know, I mean, as you say, Stolzer's behaviour is very bad and really indefensible.

OK, do you generally think that it does him a favour or would he not have continued with Greaves in the next match had he been fit?

I mean, it seems weird saying this.

We all know that Jeff Hurst is going to be a hero of the 1966 World Cup, but it is a massive sliding doors moment because would he actually have got his chance?

Greaves is a better finisher than, I mean, we've never watched him, but everybody says Greaves obviously was a better finisher than Hurst.

You do see this in teams, don't you?

Where you just go, this guy, in national teams particularly, this guy is so extraordinary, you can't get rid of him.

I think Liverpool had a bit of that with Mo Salah this season and eventually just decided, well, we're going to have to drop him.

But I think, I agree with you, Bobby Shelton's comments are...

I mean, that's really damning what he says.