Rob Holmes

Cause you have to think when I went in, Facebook had just been out like a year.

Like I'd never been on YouTube.

It had just come out.

Like people were uploading their home videos to YouTube, you know, for like a year or two before anybody ever said, Hey podcast, you know, the word podcast wasn't even invented until 2019 or sorry,

I'd already been locked up like three years by that point.

So when I got out, I had no idea what this was, the platform.

So the fact that a legitimate person kind of advertises on Instagram

Right.

To me is bizarre.

Like you're a legitimate, but they're like, oh, go to my Instagram.

And you're like, Instagram, like, isn't that for like Facebook?

And they're like, no, no, it's not.

It's more than that.

And his he has like two hundred and something thousand followers.

Every time he comes on my show, he ends up getting two or three different.

And his his tick tocks every day.

He does a a fraud tick tock where he talks about different types of.

At different types of and he broke down the last time we we talked, he broke down.

He's like, no, he said every morning I go on the Department of Justice or the FBI website and I look at I look up all of the press releases and I see which ones have our press release about a resolution.

You know, because they'll do multiple first when they catch them.