Rob Hurst

How did you respond to this outrage?

I'd been beating the living daylights out of me up until then, except I saw Red and I chased him through the house and he sort of looked at my eyes, you know, going red, and I managed to pin him down for the first time and decided that I would kill him.

And which I was in the process of doing.

My tiny mother, she's, you know, she was less than five foot tall, tore me off before I actually did that.

And after that, there was a grudging respect between the two musicians at home.

And, you know, we got on, from that point on, we got on really well.

You know, there was an armistice.

Poorly, because on the day I was brought back from Camden Hospital, Stephen took one look at me and picked up a piece of wood with a nail in it and drove it into my head.

Yeah, yeah.

So Mum had to turn around and go back to Camden Hospital and readmit me.

And it was kind of war from then on.

Until years later, in our mid-teens, when the sticky fingers incident happened.

Famously.

Get on really well.

I should add, though, Stephen's brilliant career has been curtailed, like so many musicians, by terrible depression and anxiety.

And I know he won't mind me talking about it because...

For every family that has encountered this in their... You know, the black dog in their family, it's important for people to be completely honest and open about it.

And all my family members on my mother's side have suffered from it to different degrees.

But I think one of the reasons that Stephen's brilliant career with piano and church organ was...

Never fully realised was because of this terrible anxiety and depression, some of which I've had as well, which I've kind of controlled over the years, but which has affected family members, cousins, right down my mother's side.