Rob Russo

We'd probably be surprised, Kathleen knows this better than I do, that there are a lot of

oil and gas CEOs who are supporting, if not financially, then politically supporting some of the independence movements there as well.

So we need captains of industry to come out and say, this would be the wrong thing if we actually want to get a pipeline built.

to tidewater, we better remain part of Canada.

All those things will become clear.

And I think Mr. Poitier's role will become clearer as well once we have a question and we know this is going to go ahead for sure.

Lots of fun, as always.

And somehow you still look better than both of us, Kathy.

That's for sure.

Well, I don't know that he has much choice to do what he's doing.

The Prime Minister is trying, in effect, to fashion a garment, almost like an economic tailor.

A fine garment, stitching together, creating blocks in Europe, in the Pacific, and in South America, in Mercosur.

He might as well also be stitching a red handkerchief right in the middle of that garment because he's waving a red handkerchief in the face of Donald Trump when he says that the new international order will be built out of Europe.

And I think he's quite fine with waving that red handkerchief in front of Trump.

I don't think he does it deliberately, but it does not perturb him to do it.

So, sure, he has to do it.

But if we're talking about Europe being the future, the foundation of this new international order,

then they got some leaks in their foundation.

They've got some cracks in their foundation.

They have some real problems.