Rob Sand

Hope to do it again soon. I appreciate that. Happy to.

Hope to do it again soon. I appreciate that. Happy to.

The Iowa Lottery was out there saying on a regular basis, Hey folks, check your ticket. Somebody's got 16 million bucks. And it was sort of this mystery. Why hasn't anyone come forward?

The Iowa Lottery was out there saying on a regular basis, Hey folks, check your ticket. Somebody's got 16 million bucks. And it was sort of this mystery. Why hasn't anyone come forward?

So every few months, Terry Rich, the head of the Iowa Lottery, would have a press conference and remind people, hey, we owe somebody $16 million. Check your tickets, you know. We want to pay this money out. And no one came and no one came and no one came.

So every few months, Terry Rich, the head of the Iowa Lottery, would have a press conference and remind people, hey, we owe somebody $16 million. Check your tickets, you know. We want to pay this money out. And no one came and no one came and no one came.

They would try to say, hey, that was my ticket. I lost it. Okay. Can you do any better than that? No. That was my friend's ticket. That was my brother's ticket. So-and-so bought that and they died, but I'm just sure it was theirs. Those are their lucky numbers. They played those numbers all the time. All kinds of stuff like that.

They would try to say, hey, that was my ticket. I lost it. Okay. Can you do any better than that? No. That was my friend's ticket. That was my brother's ticket. So-and-so bought that and they died, but I'm just sure it was theirs. Those are their lucky numbers. They played those numbers all the time. All kinds of stuff like that.

Privately, one thing that the Iowa Lottery had that the public didn't know the lottery had was a video of the purchaser. So the Iowa Lottery is looking at this video and we know, okay, here's a very heavyset man in a big leather jacket with a very low voice who's walking up to claim these tickets.

Privately, one thing that the Iowa Lottery had that the public didn't know the lottery had was a video of the purchaser. So the Iowa Lottery is looking at this video and we know, okay, here's a very heavyset man in a big leather jacket with a very low voice who's walking up to claim these tickets.

So Phoebe, if you had called in and said, hey, it's me, Phoebe, I bought that ticket, we would have said, no, you didn't. And you might've been confused as to how we knew you didn't, but we could use that to screen people who were trying to get that $16 million, but who we knew hadn't purchased the ticket. Now, of course, if we made that video public,

So Phoebe, if you had called in and said, hey, it's me, Phoebe, I bought that ticket, we would have said, no, you didn't. And you might've been confused as to how we knew you didn't, but we could use that to screen people who were trying to get that $16 million, but who we knew hadn't purchased the ticket. Now, of course, if we made that video public,

It gets a lot harder to use it as a screen because then everybody nudges their heavyset middle-aged friend and says, hey, that could be you on that video. You should call them and tell them it's you. And so we had held that back.

It gets a lot harder to use it as a screen because then everybody nudges their heavyset middle-aged friend and says, hey, that could be you on that video. You should call them and tell them it's you. And so we had held that back.

So finally, about a month to go before the deadline runs, somebody calls in who knows the serial number. Now, Mary checks the other piece. She's talking to the man and very wisely asks him, Whoa, that must have been a memorable day. You won $16 million. What were you wearing when you bought that ticket?

So finally, about a month to go before the deadline runs, somebody calls in who knows the serial number. Now, Mary checks the other piece. She's talking to the man and very wisely asks him, Whoa, that must have been a memorable day. You won $16 million. What were you wearing when you bought that ticket?

And this man from Canada, Philip Johnston, says, well, probably what I normally wear, a sports coat and flannel pants. Of course, Mary has seen the video of the actual purchaser. The actual purchaser, again, is a very heavyset man, middle-aged, wearing a leather jacket. And Philip Johnson is describing himself to be not that man. So immediately there's some suspicion there about what's going on.

And this man from Canada, Philip Johnston, says, well, probably what I normally wear, a sports coat and flannel pants. Of course, Mary has seen the video of the actual purchaser. The actual purchaser, again, is a very heavyset man, middle-aged, wearing a leather jacket. And Philip Johnson is describing himself to be not that man. So immediately there's some suspicion there about what's going on.

That is owned by none other than Philip Johnston.

That is owned by none other than Philip Johnston.