Rob Smedley

And those tools that those teams have developed over time help them with car development and going quicker, and that's something Cadillac doesn't have.

So how can Cadillac ever be competitive in one, two, or three years?

That feels impossible.

The best way to do it is buy the right people.

Right.

Shortcut it through people.

Because you can't forget what you know if you bring the knowledge with you.

You can't forget what you know.

And especially if you're the guy who developed that bit of software that they need.

Tire model, give you an example.

You don't have a good tire model, your simulator is useless.

Can you buy a tire model?

No, Adrian can't do it single-handedly.

He can't do it all.

In the day, right, in 1998, 1999, when British American Racing started and all those teams before that, you could test as much as you want.

You'd go to a race and then you'd go testing.

We'd have five cars, right?

Two test cars, three race cars.

You'd be testing more than you were racing.

When you test that much, how much do you need a driver-in-loop simulator?