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Rob Walling

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3342 total appearances

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Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

There are replacements available, again, AWS, GCP, Azure, and others, but there's no lead flow or customer concentration. We'll see you next time. The machine learning engineer they helped me hire was very professional and even learned a new tech stack to set up an environment to train and deploy machine learning models.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

There are replacements available, again, AWS, GCP, Azure, and others, but there's no lead flow or customer concentration. We'll see you next time. The machine learning engineer they helped me hire was very professional and even learned a new tech stack to set up an environment to train and deploy machine learning models.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

He documented his work clearly so I could train it in the future with additional data. I'm super happy with the results. And longtime listener Chaz Yoon hired a senior developer from Lemon.io and said his hire, quote, definitely knew his stuff, provided appropriate feedback and pushback, and had great communication, including very fluent English. He really exceeded my expectations.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

He documented his work clearly so I could train it in the future with additional data. I'm super happy with the results. And longtime listener Chaz Yoon hired a senior developer from Lemon.io and said his hire, quote, definitely knew his stuff, provided appropriate feedback and pushback, and had great communication, including very fluent English. He really exceeded my expectations.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

Chas said he'd definitely use Lemon.io again when he's looking for a senior level engineer. To learn more and get a 15% discount on your first four weeks of working with a developer, head to Lemon.io slash startups. That's Lemon.io slash startups. The fourth level of platform risk is the one that I added for the WordPress kerfuffle. And here's the interesting thing.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

Chas said he'd definitely use Lemon.io again when he's looking for a senior level engineer. To learn more and get a 15% discount on your first four weeks of working with a developer, head to Lemon.io slash startups. That's Lemon.io slash startups. The fourth level of platform risk is the one that I added for the WordPress kerfuffle. And here's the interesting thing.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

I just have, I have open source software like WordPress. And so that's kind of vague as the fourth level. Here's the thing. There's no customer concentration. There's no lead flow. The question is, is there a replacement? Is it easy to switch? And is it priced the same? Well, you know, open source software doesn't have to be free as in price, free as in beer, but most of it is, right?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

I just have, I have open source software like WordPress. And so that's kind of vague as the fourth level. Here's the thing. There's no customer concentration. There's no lead flow. The question is, is there a replacement? Is it easy to switch? And is it priced the same? Well, you know, open source software doesn't have to be free as in price, free as in beer, but most of it is, right?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

I think the majority of it is. So price is probably less relevant. The question is, how hard is it to switch and is a replacement available? And the further question that begs is, well, how deeply are you integrated? Because if we look at WP Engine, that is obviously reliant on WordPress, couldn't WP Engine just fork the WordPress code? Because I believe it's GPL, right? They fork it.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

I think the majority of it is. So price is probably less relevant. The question is, how hard is it to switch and is a replacement available? And the further question that begs is, well, how deeply are you integrated? Because if we look at WP Engine, that is obviously reliant on WordPress, couldn't WP Engine just fork the WordPress code? Because I believe it's GPL, right? They fork it.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

Now, I guess then there's a whole plugin ecosystem. I don't know what happened with there. So that's an I don't know. It feels like there's risk there, but they have options.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

Now, I guess then there's a whole plugin ecosystem. I don't know what happened with there. So that's an I don't know. It feels like there's risk there, but they have options.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

If you were a SaaS company and you had built your entire SaaS or your, I guess, no low-code SaaS or your entire productized service, say, around WordPress, and suddenly WordPress changed their licensing or they, I don't know, broke all the plugins that you use and they just broke your business. What would be the replacement for that? Well, you'd have to go and build it somewhere else, right?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

If you were a SaaS company and you had built your entire SaaS or your, I guess, no low-code SaaS or your entire productized service, say, around WordPress, and suddenly WordPress changed their licensing or they, I don't know, broke all the plugins that you use and they just broke your business. What would be the replacement for that? Well, you'd have to go and build it somewhere else, right?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

You'd have to go build it in no code, have code written, do it manually. I don't think a replacement in this case, it's the job to be done. I know Ghost is similar to WordPress, but the job to be done of what you've built in WordPress, I don't know that it translates so well to just another CMS.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

You'd have to go build it in no code, have code written, do it manually. I don't think a replacement in this case, it's the job to be done. I know Ghost is similar to WordPress, but the job to be done of what you've built in WordPress, I don't know that it translates so well to just another CMS.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

And so this one's interesting in that longer term, I have this at four right now, meaning it's higher risk than, say, your AWS GCP or cloud provider. This would have been probably down around two or three before the WP Engine WordPress kerfuffle.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

And so this one's interesting in that longer term, I have this at four right now, meaning it's higher risk than, say, your AWS GCP or cloud provider. This would have been probably down around two or three before the WP Engine WordPress kerfuffle.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

And this is how weird these things are, is that given that WordPress has shown that they are going to be aggressive, not making themselves out to be a friendly platform right now. And so I think that is why, for sure, I kicked them up in terms of the actual risk. The big question is, if you had a business built on WordPress, how hard would it really be to switch?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk (A Rob Solo Adventure)

And this is how weird these things are, is that given that WordPress has shown that they are going to be aggressive, not making themselves out to be a friendly platform right now. And so I think that is why, for sure, I kicked them up in terms of the actual risk. The big question is, if you had a business built on WordPress, how hard would it really be to switch?